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News: 10/5/12 - All new members are REQUIRED to fill out the signature section of your profile. Otherwise, you may be deleted from the forum. This is to help me determine if you are a member or if you are a spammer. Thank you.

9/22/12 - I ask that you please add a signature line to your profiles on the Cletrac Forum to help me to determine who is spam and who is not. You don't need to drop everything and do this immediately, but please do it when you get a minute and you are visiting the forum. Just go to http://cletrac.org/forum2010/index.php?action=profile and put something in the signature area. If you no longer want to be a member on the Cletrac Forum, please remove your membership.

8/10/11 - Added a new board: Trucking and Hauling

5/30/11 - Just added several new pictures to the Photo Gallery, including several Alfta Track OC-4 working in snow logging, several from the Chicago Road Show, and some from a logging show (not all Oliver/Cletrac). All these pictures are from around 1963 and were scanned from old slides given to me by my late friend John W. Davis. Go to the Photo Gallery and click on "NEW" to see these pictures. Quality is marginal, but I think you will enjoy them.

2/13/11 - Just added a new board "New members introduce yourselves here".

Folks, I just added a new photo gallery where you can upload your own pictures with descriptions, etc. Right now this is in the beta testing stage to see how it works out. Give it a try, but please keep a backup copy of your pictures just in case we decide to use something else. I would prefer you use your real name on the photo gallery, but if you really don't want to, please use the same username as on the forum. Please put your images into the proper categories and take care when your write out your descriptions and image names so people can search for them. I am learning this as we go. At least at the beginning, I have it set up where the administrator has to approve members. I am afraid we may get porn spam in here if we leave it open. To get to the photo gallery, use this link: http://cletrac.org/photos/

Folks, when you join the forum, or when you get the chance to update your Profile, please be sure to put your location and interests. Filling out your signature would help as well. I've been getting some spammers joining and posting links to sites that are completely unrelated to Cletrac or Oliver, or anything to do with tractors. It would make it easier for me, as well as all the other members, if you guys would put your location and interest in your profile. See http://cletrac.org/forum2010/index.php?topic=1299.msg5184#msg5184

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1  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: FDE Crawlers on: June 17, 2019, 10:38:09 PM
The FD started life in 1936 with a Hercules  DHX engine.  In 1938 the tractor was upgraded and the engine size increase to a DHXB engine.   In 1941 due to a shortage of Hercules engines the FDLC with a Cummins was made.  In 1945 it became the FDE with a Hercules DFXE engine. IT was made until 1952 and then the OC 18 came out.
2  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: IXB5 Timing on: March 10, 2019, 11:32:31 PM
Yes, on the 5 gear model the Gov is not timed.  The mag is driven by the water pump and that needs to be timed.
3  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: Back track sprockets on: February 03, 2019, 06:46:54 PM
Cletrac sprockets are cast steel, they can be welded with any steel rod!  6011, 6013 7018 etc.
4  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: IXK3 starter parts on: December 05, 2018, 04:04:01 PM
The Auto-Lite MZ-4098 was the first starter used on the HG, from SN 5GA000 to 25GA377. At SN 25GA378 they switched to a Delco 11029602.  I to would recommend Zimmerman's, they are very good to deal with.
5  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG track support bushing question on: November 12, 2018, 02:35:23 PM
Well Jack, that is a lot of work! But it should last a long if kept greased.
6  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG track support bushing question on: November 07, 2018, 09:19:24 PM
Yes. I would use grease there, as there are no seals to hold in oil.
7  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG track support bushing question on: November 07, 2018, 12:03:29 PM
The outside part of the stub shaft is cast iron. That does not take weld very well.  I would clean the stub shaft well with a wire brush. Then get some JB weld or similar epoxy and use that to glue the bushing to the shaft.
8  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG track support bushing question on: November 06, 2018, 12:09:25 PM
They are about 1/8" thick. which is not much. There are grease fitting in the support bracket, but most that I have come across have never seen grease.
9  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: EN 4B 76 on: November 05, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
For the EN the serial numbers should be 1B00 to 1B946. There is also a model EHG with serial numbers 1R00 to 8R52.  Both had Hercules OOC gas engines. Could your B be an R?
10  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG track support bushing question on: November 04, 2018, 10:30:01 PM
The sleeve is a press fit onto the sub shaft.  They usually wear through on the bottom and split. The support bracket will wear out of round as you say. They can be repaired by boring them out until round again then adding a sleeve to fit.
11  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: IXK3 torque output? on: November 08, 2017, 12:54:48 AM
The gross torque for the IXK is 86 ft/lbs, net about 72ft/lbs. The later IXB was about 10% more.  This is at 1800 rpm.
12  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG engine removal on: October 24, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
Yes, leaving the bellhousing in place will work. I have done that.  If I could go back in time I think I would be kicking them in the but!!
13  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: HG engine removal on: October 23, 2017, 11:30:29 PM
I think there are some hidden bolts into the bellhousing that are under the front track supports. Makes for a lot of work to remove the engine!
14  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH? on: October 19, 2017, 12:23:39 PM
That is good that you have the correct engine set up. Do you have the old engine?  You will need the bellhousing from it.  This is just a flat plate that is between the engine and clutch housing, it is unique to the Cletrac.  Zimmerman Oliver-Cletrac may have one if you need it.
15  Cletrac Tractor Discussion / All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH? on: October 16, 2017, 11:14:51 AM
The original engine was a JXD engine. It has a bigger bore than the JXC.  Both engines will fit, but there are two kinds of JX engines. Those with 3 timing gears and those with 5. Cletrac used the 5 gear engine and it has provision for the governor the 3 gear engine does not.  Look at the front gear cover on your JXC, if it is wider than the block on both sides it is a 5 gear engine, if only on one side, a 3 gear engine.  You could use a 3 gear engine but you would need to install some kind of belt driven governor or a foot gas pedal!
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