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« on: April 11, 2011, 01:32:10 PM »

 Well I just got a small surprise while working on one of my MG-1's.I was cleaning out the tool box on the right fender.Was full of nuts, bolts and other small parts including a few of those 4" discs that go on the shelf that supports the fuel tank that basically attach the tank to it.
   
While cleaning the hardware up I noticed that there is some primer left on these dics-more than enough to make a pretty positive ID of the stuff.Yellow Zinc Chromate just like you use on aircraft! Given the location of where these parts reside I would give it a O% possibilty these were repainted since leaving the factory.And they don't look to be a repaint at all--first and only coat.

 Anyone else ever see Yellow zinc Chromate on these? Anywhere else on these machines? I'm just getting to the point where I may start painting a few pieces and was going to use red oxide primer (PPG's 2 part epoxy primer under Gillispie 34087).Just about sure my choice of color may not be "period correct" so the "wrong" primer is a moot point here anyway--just wondering what others here think is the "correct" primer and color for that matter.

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 12:13:59 PM »

Hi Jim,

Yes I have found Zinc Chromate on mine,and on some of the parts I recently bought from the US. Some parts also have Red Oxide on them which also appears original.

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 04:54:50 PM »

I was kind of expecting red oxide like I had read about on WWII trucks but had to chuckle when I saw the yellow zinc  had just bought some high dollar red DP epoxy from PPG and I thought crap now THAT'S not correct!

 So what color are you going to go with( Knowing full well what a firestorm that question would start on the "military vehicle" sites LOL!!)??

 Looks like the choices are:FS34087 , FS34070 or 319. According the"experts" 319 didn't appear until after the war actually but my machines look like it.Repainted for sure but which repaint do I trust LOL!!.So, I think I'll really take a stab in the dark and use the FS34087 I already have.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 07:07:16 PM »

The red primer is Red Lead. When my grandfather started working for Cletrac - long before he became Experimental Engineer - his first job way lying under tractors painting Red Lead primer with a brush.

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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 03:39:49 AM »

I am using the FS 34087 for all my WWII stuff - Cletracs, MB, and GPW (all 1942 and 1943 models) On my M35 and M543 I am using the FS 24087 (semi-gloss Korea / Early Viet-nam 1966 and 1967)...

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 04:03:22 PM »

Went to the Military Vehicle Association convention and brought back several business cards.
One of them had mil speck paint.
Their contact info is

Army Jeep Parts
6500 Beaverdam Rd
Levittown, PA 19057
www.armyjeepsparts.com
sales@armyjiipsparts.com
215-269-5014
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