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Author Topic: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?  (Read 322 times)
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« on: October 13, 2017, 07:29:13 AM »

I have a Model BGSH serial # 8C960 built in 1946, I don't know what engine was in it originally, I am replacing it with a Hercules model JXC and am wondering if this is the same engine?  thank you for any help you can give me.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2017, 11:14:51 AM »

The original engine was a JXD engine. It has a bigger bore than the JXC.  Both engines will fit, but there are two kinds of JX engines. Those with 3 timing gears and those with 5. Cletrac used the 5 gear engine and it has provision for the governor the 3 gear engine does not.  Look at the front gear cover on your JXC, if it is wider than the block on both sides it is a 5 gear engine, if only on one side, a 3 gear engine.  You could use a 3 gear engine but you would need to install some kind of belt driven governor or a foot gas pedal!
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 08:02:24 PM »

Thanks for the information Robert I will check and see which engine I have.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 06:00:12 AM »

Checked the JXC last night and appears to have the wide front cover with the governor on one side and water pump on the other.  Now I just have to figure out how to get 6 ext. valves out.  Mice have gotten in the ext. manifold some time over the last 50 years. It hasn't been going very well.  We took the JXC engine out of a 27 Massy Harris Combine.   
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 12:23:39 PM »

That is good that you have the correct engine set up. Do you have the old engine?  You will need the bellhousing from it.  This is just a flat plate that is between the engine and clutch housing, it is unique to the Cletrac.  Zimmerman Oliver-Cletrac may have one if you need it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 09:12:24 PM »

Yes I have the bellhousing that is correct. I did get all the valves out today I had to use heat to loosen them up and then slowly push him out with the lifter adjustment. Now I will start working on getting the Pistons loose which I don't think are stuck too bad. The old engine was toast but I do have all the parts that came with it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 09:24:11 PM »

I have the engine completely disassembled and the block and associated parts are at the machine shop.  Question, I get an error when trying to open paint codes.  What is the correct paint color and is the engine same color as the crawler?
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2017, 01:09:05 AM »

I'm not sure if it will work, but if the pistons from the JXD are good, you might be able to have the block bored to fit them.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2017, 06:41:49 PM »

Decided to put the jxc engine in aside from the valves needing attention the rest of engine looks good.  It will probably will not see hard work again.
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