Title: Aux Transmissions
Post by: alex on June 13, 2005, 01:10:25 AM
Post by: alex on June 13, 2005, 01:10:25 AM
I have a 31, 42 and 68 HG. The 31 has an Anderson Dozer blade on it and the 42 has a shop made blade. I use the 68 to bush hog some hillsides which it does well. I am interested in installing an aux trans, most likely, in the 31. Would prefer to purchase one if anyone knew where I might find one, or contract to have one made, given, of course, that the price was not impossibly high. Alex
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Post by: wolcott@dmcom.net on June 16, 2005, 01:13:09 AM
Post by: wolcott@dmcom.net on June 16, 2005, 01:13:09 AM
Alex,
There is a whole section on auxiliary transmissions on this board. Read the whole thing.
The only viable method is to get a Model A Ford transmission and the other parts listed, then modify your bell housing, etc and fabricate adapter plates and u-joints to put it together.
I am in the process of this project right now. I have purchased the parts needed and will soon pull the bell housing and clutch and do the adapters, etc. When that's done I'll fabricate the u-joints, clutch linkage, gas tank support etc.
I plan to document and photograph the procedure step by step, but won't be done for a few months.
Dick
There is a whole section on auxiliary transmissions on this board. Read the whole thing.
The only viable method is to get a Model A Ford transmission and the other parts listed, then modify your bell housing, etc and fabricate adapter plates and u-joints to put it together.
I am in the process of this project right now. I have purchased the parts needed and will soon pull the bell housing and clutch and do the adapters, etc. When that's done I'll fabricate the u-joints, clutch linkage, gas tank support etc.
I plan to document and photograph the procedure step by step, but won't be done for a few months.
Dick
Title: aux transmission
Post by: alex on June 16, 2005, 03:37:53 AM
Post by: alex on June 16, 2005, 03:37:53 AM
Will look forward to reading about how your project goes. I doubt I will get to doing one till this winter. Would be great if as you proceed you could include sources of parts and costs.
I have looked through the material on the site but was hoping there would be an easy way out. Where did you find the transmission?
Alex
I have looked through the material on the site but was hoping there would be an easy way out. Where did you find the transmission?
Alex
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Post by: wolcott@dmcom.net on June 17, 2005, 02:01:15 AM
Post by: wolcott@dmcom.net on June 17, 2005, 02:01:15 AM
I got mine at an almost local boneyard for antique cars. This guy has a little bit of everything - but LOTS of Model A stuff, and a bunch of transmissions.
Where are you located?
Dick
Oneonta, NY
Where are you located?
Dick
Oneonta, NY
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Post by: alex on June 17, 2005, 08:20:49 PM
Post by: alex on June 17, 2005, 08:20:49 PM
I'm a bit south of Richmond, VA. Most, if not all, of the old time junk yards are gone in the area. Alex
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Post by: moeh1 on June 28, 2005, 09:07:22 PM
Post by: moeh1 on June 28, 2005, 09:07:22 PM
I tried to post under the aux trans area, didn't have luck getting the message in. I just finished, basically followed John's directions, it is great! 
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Post by: moeh1 on June 28, 2005, 09:13:21 PM
Post by: moeh1 on June 28, 2005, 09:13:21 PM
Well my reply took, so I'll put in a few more details.
I got spare Oliver parts from a local crawler boneyard, so I didn't have to tear the machine down until I was well along in the process.
I got the tranny off a Model A parts swap website for $75, including the A bellhousing which is pretty useful to imagine what things need to look like on the section you need to make.
I had a local high school weld the bellhousing as a demo for welding cast - it needed preheating and they used cast rod.
My U joints were smaller, my driveshaft is similar, but different.
If you have access to metal and machining, and comfortable with the stuff John describes, this is doable!
I got spare Oliver parts from a local crawler boneyard, so I didn't have to tear the machine down until I was well along in the process.
I got the tranny off a Model A parts swap website for $75, including the A bellhousing which is pretty useful to imagine what things need to look like on the section you need to make.
I had a local high school weld the bellhousing as a demo for welding cast - it needed preheating and they used cast rod.
My U joints were smaller, my driveshaft is similar, but different.
If you have access to metal and machining, and comfortable with the stuff John describes, this is doable!
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Post by: moeh1 on June 30, 2005, 12:07:04 AM
Post by: moeh1 on June 30, 2005, 12:07:04 AM
I am glad this topic got moved in here. I tried posting was having troubles but seem to be able to reply just fine 
Anyway, I wanted to thank John and Dave for all their support. This is a great addition to the OC3! I am so happy I did the work, the results are Waaa Hooo as Dave said. I'm glad to see a couple others trying it, too bad we didn't sync up 6-8 months ago.
John's bearing numbers and the throwout bearing assy were right on and ssaved me a bunch of hunting. Also, I found a great illustrated site for the A transmission, I took mine down and replaced bearings, gaskets etc.
Look at http://www.geocities.com/jim_mason_4991 ... build.html (http://www.geocities.com/jim_mason_49913/xmissionrebuild.html)
Finally, I got clutch disk, gaskets, some tranny bearings and throwout bearings from http://www.macsautoparts.com/ (http://www.macsautoparts.com/)
You can order a Model A catalog from them, they are cheap, thorough and fast.
Good Luck!
Anyway, I wanted to thank John and Dave for all their support. This is a great addition to the OC3! I am so happy I did the work, the results are Waaa Hooo as Dave said. I'm glad to see a couple others trying it, too bad we didn't sync up 6-8 months ago.John's bearing numbers and the throwout bearing assy were right on and ssaved me a bunch of hunting. Also, I found a great illustrated site for the A transmission, I took mine down and replaced bearings, gaskets etc.
Look at http://www.geocities.com/jim_mason_4991 ... build.html (http://www.geocities.com/jim_mason_49913/xmissionrebuild.html)
Finally, I got clutch disk, gaskets, some tranny bearings and throwout bearings from http://www.macsautoparts.com/ (http://www.macsautoparts.com/)
You can order a Model A catalog from them, they are cheap, thorough and fast.
Good Luck!
Title: moeh1 please contact me...
Post by: wolcott@dmcom.net on July 18, 2005, 12:10:55 AM
Post by: wolcott@dmcom.net on July 18, 2005, 12:10:55 AM
I'm in the process of doing the aux trans install and would like to chat. Just in case you've learned some shortcuts, etc over Dave's outline.
Where are you located? I'm in Oneonta.
Contact me off list at wolcott@dmcom.net or 607-433-1480
Dick
Where are you located? I'm in Oneonta.
Contact me off list at wolcott@dmcom.net or 607-433-1480
Dick
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Post by: moeh1 on July 28, 2005, 04:40:22 PM
Post by: moeh1 on July 28, 2005, 04:40:22 PM
I'm near Rochester, but I keep my machine down near bath/corning. I really looked for some other ways at almost each step, but in the end, I really went down the same path. The only deviation was that Dave told me I could hook up the clutch throwout spring as I slid the tranny in, so I didn't need an access hole. Hat's off to John for all the upfront work.