Title: Lubricating tracs of a HG-42
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 09, 2008, 04:36:43 PM
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 09, 2008, 04:36:43 PM
I was wondering were I can find an inexpensive oil lubrocator for the button fittings used on the HG tracs? I found one for $165 but thought I might be able to get one for less. Or is ther some type of conversion I could do. I would like to use oil as suggested in the manual.
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Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 09, 2008, 08:31:14 PM
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 09, 2008, 08:31:14 PM
Very suprised nobody can comment on this. After doing more reserch It looks like Napa may have a Button Head Grease coupling. It is a Balken part # 7151152 This is apparently the standard size of 7/16" they also make a giant size at 7/8" I hope you all are lubricatiing your tracs. I can't imagine everyone just had the proper gun on hand or handed down.
Title: Oil Gun Button Fitting
Post by: 550DarrinWI on February 10, 2008, 02:15:23 AM
Post by: 550DarrinWI on February 10, 2008, 02:15:23 AM
From the archives of www.cletrac.org (http://www.cletrac.org)
buttonhead fittings from Brown Supply (www.mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com) has the adapters for about 35 bucks
buttonhead fittings from Brown Supply (www.mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com) has the adapters for about 35 bucks
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Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 11, 2008, 04:06:25 PM
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 11, 2008, 04:06:25 PM
QuoteHarbor Freight sells a pneumatic grease gun for about 20 bucks
I wonder if it will hold 90w gear oil?
QuoteMcMaster-Carr www.mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com) has the adapters for about 35 bucks
I also noticed they sell a 10oz and 26oz Oil-Dispensing Gun. The 10 ouncer is not to expensive. I wonder if 10oz of oil is enough for one lube session?
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Post by: RockyMO on February 11, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
Post by: RockyMO on February 11, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
I have searched high and low for an original oil gun but have not found one for sale. Untill I do find one I am using an automotive rear end lube barrell and pump. I just adapted a hose from a grease gun to it and it pumps the 90 weight just fine. I would still like to find an original pump just to have one though.
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Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 11, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 11, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
QuoteI am using an automotive rear end lube barrell and pump.
Rocky,
I'm not sure what that is. Can you send me a link showing one?
Thanks,
Steve
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Post by: RockyMO on February 11, 2008, 05:19:44 PM
Post by: RockyMO on February 11, 2008, 05:19:44 PM
If I can remember how to show a picture on this site this first one should be a picture of the pump and barrell assembly. These were common in service stations and auto repair shops.
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This is a picture of the original hose tip for adding fluid to a rear differential.
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This is the hose tip I installed to work on my HG's track fittings. It is off of a standard automotive grease gun. You have to pump slowly due to the reduced nozzle size but it installs the oil just fine.
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If you have any more questions or need additional pictures feel free to email me.
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This is a picture of the original hose tip for adding fluid to a rear differential.
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This is the hose tip I installed to work on my HG's track fittings. It is off of a standard automotive grease gun. You have to pump slowly due to the reduced nozzle size but it installs the oil just fine.
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If you have any more questions or need additional pictures feel free to email me.
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Post by: RockyMO on February 11, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
Post by: RockyMO on February 11, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
It appears my pictures did not work. Give me an email address or a refresher course on how to post them and I will gladly send them to you.
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Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 11, 2008, 05:28:37 PM
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 11, 2008, 05:28:37 PM
email address sent to pm
thx
thx
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Post by: mmoscari on February 12, 2008, 05:08:20 AM
Post by: mmoscari on February 12, 2008, 05:08:20 AM
I bought a $12 manual grease gun at the local NAPA Store. Then changed the connector fitting to fit my flat button style fittings. NAPA Also sells the gear oil. You can buy the correct fitting at any truck parts supply. Harbor freight also stocks the grease connector fitting. Its a little messy, but better than paying $150 for the same thing. Right now I have to open the grease gun to fill it with oil, but I'm adding a dip tube and valve, so I can suck the oil out of the can without opening the gun.
Title: Track lube.
Post by: John Schwiebert on February 12, 2008, 01:51:41 PM
Post by: John Schwiebert on February 12, 2008, 01:51:41 PM
I realize you need to be in the midwest maybe for this, but does anyone use John Deere corn head lube? Also one day when I was the sub at the career center for the mechanics class the topic was SAE viscosity number. *0 weight gear oil is very close to the same viscosity as 50 weight motor oil. Gear oils were given higer numbers to start with so they could be distinguished from motor oils.!
Title: Gear oil
Post by: John Schwiebert on February 12, 2008, 01:52:31 PM
Post by: John Schwiebert on February 12, 2008, 01:52:31 PM
That should have been 80 weight. Sorry about that.
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Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 12, 2008, 05:29:40 PM
Post by: Steve Ruddy on February 12, 2008, 05:29:40 PM
I just found this grease gun modification. I think I'll give it a try.
//http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/oilgun/gunconvert.html
It's the least expensive option I've come across so far.
//http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/oilgun/gunconvert.html
It's the least expensive option I've come across so far.
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Post by: Bill Seal on February 12, 2008, 09:51:06 PM
Post by: Bill Seal on February 12, 2008, 09:51:06 PM
I think that archived post was mine from a while ago. Anyway, the Harbor Freight gun works better if you take the plunger out of the barrel and turn it over, so it's more like a brake cylinder. The reason for the pneumatic gun is that it takes LOTS of pump strokes to fill a roller.
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Post by: hotratz on February 13, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
Post by: hotratz on February 13, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
Just a question, How do you know you have enough oil in the roller when filling?
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Post by: Jack in NB on February 13, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
Post by: Jack in NB on February 13, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
Hi Steve -
If the seals are good, they let loose with a good juicy burst of flatulence when they're full. Usually between 5 and 10 strokes with the Alemite type oil gun.
If the seals are shot, you will see leakage after 3 to 5 strokes. Inside is hard to see, but shows up on the treads.
With the defective seals, I usually oil every two to 3 hours until I get a chance to replace them.
If the seals are good, they let loose with a good juicy burst of flatulence when they're full. Usually between 5 and 10 strokes with the Alemite type oil gun.
If the seals are shot, you will see leakage after 3 to 5 strokes. Inside is hard to see, but shows up on the treads.
With the defective seals, I usually oil every two to 3 hours until I get a chance to replace them.
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Post by: hotratz on February 14, 2008, 02:03:42 PM
Post by: hotratz on February 14, 2008, 02:03:42 PM
Quote from: "Jack in NB"If the seals are good, they let loose with a good juicy burst of flatulence when they're full.
I don't think you could have made it any more discript.
In any account I guess they are never too full. Thanks