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Cletrac Tractor Discussion => HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General => Topic started by: mmoscari on April 27, 2008, 12:28:26 AM

Title: Wiring diagram for OC4 12v Alternator Conversion
Post by: mmoscari on April 27, 2008, 12:28:26 AM
My 1956 OC4 came with an alternator.  It doesn't charge the battery.  My Battery is wired with a Positive Ground.  I want to be sure that the conversion was wired correctly before I look for a new alternator.  I know how to wire a Negative ground alternator, but I'm not sure about positive ground systems. I dont want to fry anything.  Can anyone help with a scematic?
Title: OC4 Alternator
Post by: Jim N on April 27, 2008, 12:59:40 AM
I converted my OC4 from a 6 volt, positive ground, generator  to a 12 volt, negative ground, alternator system a couple of years ago.  The alternator came out of a Toyota truck. I used this small one since I did not wish to cut any sheet  metal.
I suspect your charging system should be negative ground also, since it has an alternator.  It all depends on what the alternator is set up for.
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Post by: mmoscari on April 27, 2008, 01:44:30 PM
Thanks for the reply, Jim.  My battery is connected with the POSITIVE connected to Ground.  The alternator is very small, I have no Idea what it came off of.  I havent started to investigate yet, but I dont think the alternator can be wired with a negative ground.  For me to switch to a Negative Ground I think I would need a new starter? It would turn in reverse.
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Post by: hotratz on April 27, 2008, 03:27:06 PM
If the starter is a permanent magnet type it will turn in reverse. If it is a wound stator field type it won't care what polarity you apply. See if a screw driver blade sticks to the side of it. If it does it's a permanent magnet type. If it doesn't you should be good to go.
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Post by: mmoscari on April 27, 2008, 04:33:56 PM
A Negative ground system would be a plus, but what about the Magneto?  Would I have to re-wire it?  I definitly dont want to fry that.
Title: OC-4 electrical
Post by: John Schwiebert on April 28, 2008, 12:47:27 AM
There is no current from the charging system that goes to the magneto. Me I do not care for single wire alternators. Since your tractor has a mag you may need a shut off switch controlled by oil pressure so the alternator does not run the battery down, but that may depend on what alternator you buy.
Title: OC4 Starter
Post by: Jim N on April 29, 2008, 08:47:38 PM
I had to add a contact to my kill switch, to open up the field circuit for the alternator.  My starter was not permanent magnet and works fine. ....actually a little better since it spins the engine faster to start.