Title: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: GMCPic on July 05, 2010, 09:55:41 AM
Post by: GMCPic on July 05, 2010, 09:55:41 AM
Hi to all,
Being new to this forum I will introduce myself.
Mike Gilman known as GMCPic from Northern California, Paradise.
I just purchased an Oliver Crawler tractor. From what I have been reading it seems to be an HG-42 w/dozer blade. Can not find a serial plate but casting numbers behind the mag are 7 11 47 have not got to engine numbers yet. Been reading of where to find numbers. According to what I have read though it must be between a 1947/48 and 1951. It is green over green some parts are green with yellow underneath.
It does not run, needs an intake/exhaust manifold and radiator. All the rest of it is there including sheet metal and fenders. It has a Tillotison carb. Someone removed the power take off and installe a blank plate which is yellow (sort of). 6 volt with Delco Generator and starter.
I would guess the engine is a Hercules IXK or IXB, probably IXK.
The hydraulics are not Oliver but some add on at later time. When I post pictures all will be explained.
I have been taking pictures
Being new to this forum I will introduce myself.
Mike Gilman known as GMCPic from Northern California, Paradise.
I just purchased an Oliver Crawler tractor. From what I have been reading it seems to be an HG-42 w/dozer blade. Can not find a serial plate but casting numbers behind the mag are 7 11 47 have not got to engine numbers yet. Been reading of where to find numbers. According to what I have read though it must be between a 1947/48 and 1951. It is green over green some parts are green with yellow underneath.
It does not run, needs an intake/exhaust manifold and radiator. All the rest of it is there including sheet metal and fenders. It has a Tillotison carb. Someone removed the power take off and installe a blank plate which is yellow (sort of). 6 volt with Delco Generator and starter.
I would guess the engine is a Hercules IXK or IXB, probably IXK.
The hydraulics are not Oliver but some add on at later time. When I post pictures all will be explained.
I have been taking pictures
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: oliverchris on July 05, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Post by: oliverchris on July 05, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of Cletrac crawlers and their descendants!
You can get most answers to questions on here or on the Oliver Board of Yesterday's Tractors.
Your engine is probably an IXK3...does it have a water pump? Most IXKs did not, wheareas all IXBs on HGs did.
You can get most answers to questions on here or on the Oliver Board of Yesterday's Tractors.
Your engine is probably an IXK3...does it have a water pump? Most IXKs did not, wheareas all IXBs on HGs did.
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: GMCPic on July 06, 2010, 04:23:22 AM
Post by: GMCPic on July 06, 2010, 04:23:22 AM
Well today I did a little more digging and found the engine serial number.
S/N 1928282 and IXK3 with Water pump, Starter and Generator. Also took some pictures.
I looked for the tractor serial plate but there was none either on the frame or bell housing. Also no serial/ID plate on the engine.
I need to figure out how to download pix and how many should I download. I reduced size to 800pix wide and 680 pix high.
So it seems that this is a 1947, possibly 1948, but not likely.
When I bought the tractor last week I was given an intake/exhaust manifold which is not for the Hercules IXK3 or any IX? model engine. It is probably for a 4 cyl. continental.
I think I was not given the whole truth about the tractor, but I got it for $500.00 and an extra engine for an additional $100.00 which was rebuilt at the local college.
The oil on the dip stick was fairly clean, no moisture or rust on dip stick.
Needs new plug wires and probably points
Now I need to find a manifold and radiator.
Tomorrow I plan on trying to turn the engine over with a new battery. Then take the Starter and Generator to our local auto electric shop, Paradise Auto Electric. The guy is really good, he has been at it for may years. Then pull the radiator and take it to a local radiator shop to get an estimate for repairs and if possible replace the radiator core.
S/N 1928282 and IXK3 with Water pump, Starter and Generator. Also took some pictures.
I looked for the tractor serial plate but there was none either on the frame or bell housing. Also no serial/ID plate on the engine.
I need to figure out how to download pix and how many should I download. I reduced size to 800pix wide and 680 pix high.
So it seems that this is a 1947, possibly 1948, but not likely.
When I bought the tractor last week I was given an intake/exhaust manifold which is not for the Hercules IXK3 or any IX? model engine. It is probably for a 4 cyl. continental.
I think I was not given the whole truth about the tractor, but I got it for $500.00 and an extra engine for an additional $100.00 which was rebuilt at the local college.
The oil on the dip stick was fairly clean, no moisture or rust on dip stick.
Needs new plug wires and probably points
Now I need to find a manifold and radiator.
Tomorrow I plan on trying to turn the engine over with a new battery. Then take the Starter and Generator to our local auto electric shop, Paradise Auto Electric. The guy is really good, he has been at it for may years. Then pull the radiator and take it to a local radiator shop to get an estimate for repairs and if possible replace the radiator core.
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: GMCPic on July 06, 2010, 04:35:21 AM
Post by: GMCPic on July 06, 2010, 04:35:21 AM
Me again,
All tech support and advice would be greatly appreciated.
I am questioning my sanity about this project.
I am also restoring a 1970 Mustang Coupe (daily driver) , a 1948 GMC 1/2 ton short bed pickup FC101 (daily driver) and a 1948 GMC 1 1/4 ton flat bed truck (FC253).
Pictures of the trucks are on the Stove Bolt page.
All tech support and advice would be greatly appreciated.
I am questioning my sanity about this project.
I am also restoring a 1970 Mustang Coupe (daily driver) , a 1948 GMC 1/2 ton short bed pickup FC101 (daily driver) and a 1948 GMC 1 1/4 ton flat bed truck (FC253).
Pictures of the trucks are on the Stove Bolt page.
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: GMCPic on July 06, 2010, 09:56:34 PM
Post by: GMCPic on July 06, 2010, 09:56:34 PM
GMCPic again,
Well today I hooked up a battery to the tractor and low & behold it cranked over and the oil pressure gauge moved up to 40 psi as it was cranking over. :?:
So when did Hercules start using a Tillitson Carb on their engines? :shock:
Pictures coming....
GMCPic
Well today I hooked up a battery to the tractor and low & behold it cranked over and the oil pressure gauge moved up to 40 psi as it was cranking over. :?:
So when did Hercules start using a Tillitson Carb on their engines? :shock:
Pictures coming....
GMCPic
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 1947
Post by: GMCPic on July 07, 2010, 01:24:20 AM
Post by: GMCPic on July 07, 2010, 01:24:20 AM
Next comes compression test, keep fingers crossed.
Battery does not want to take a charge, another trip to the NAPA store for 6 volt battery. The old battery is also from NAPA.
Oil type & weight recommended:?: It has a NAPA oil filter on it, so no problem getting cross reference numbers and replacement filter there.
Oil type and weight for Transmission:?:
Recommended oil for air breather/clean:?:
What is recommended track slack adjustment :?: Mine seems way too tight.
I know this is all probably in the manuals.
Thanks,
GMCPic
Battery does not want to take a charge, another trip to the NAPA store for 6 volt battery. The old battery is also from NAPA.
Oil type & weight recommended:?: It has a NAPA oil filter on it, so no problem getting cross reference numbers and replacement filter there.
Oil type and weight for Transmission:?:
Recommended oil for air breather/clean:?:
What is recommended track slack adjustment :?: Mine seems way too tight.
I know this is all probably in the manuals.
Thanks,
GMCPic
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: GMCPic on July 07, 2010, 01:43:14 AM
Post by: GMCPic on July 07, 2010, 01:43:14 AM
Picture if it works.
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 1947
Post by: hotratz on July 07, 2010, 01:11:45 PM
Post by: hotratz on July 07, 2010, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: "GMCPic"I know this is all probably in the manuals.
Thanks,
GMCPic
Title: Re: New Owner of HG-42 year???
Post by: GMCPic on July 26, 2010, 04:45:29 AM
Post by: GMCPic on July 26, 2010, 04:45:29 AM
Well all,
The Starter and Generator have been rebuilt, the starter had a shorted armature. The Generator had to have the field windings re-wrapped. Pulled the radiator and water pump sent both out for R&R as necessary. Changed the battery and Oil filter and bought new fan belt. Replaced all spark plugs with Autolite #3076 threw out the Champion W14s. Next change the oil...any recommendations??? I'm thinking non-detergent 30W Quaker State or Mobil.
It is a 1947 so I guess I will paint it Meadow Green???
Oh yeah! I need to find a new pulley for the 6V Autolite generator, it is an Autolite GAS4188A so far all the regular places do not have a pulley. They just want to sell me a conversion to a Delco Alt. Ford used an Autolite on the 2ns & 9Ns that had a screw on pulley. Maybe that will work...
The Starter and Generator have been rebuilt, the starter had a shorted armature. The Generator had to have the field windings re-wrapped. Pulled the radiator and water pump sent both out for R&R as necessary. Changed the battery and Oil filter and bought new fan belt. Replaced all spark plugs with Autolite #3076 threw out the Champion W14s. Next change the oil...any recommendations??? I'm thinking non-detergent 30W Quaker State or Mobil.
It is a 1947 so I guess I will paint it Meadow Green???
Oh yeah! I need to find a new pulley for the 6V Autolite generator, it is an Autolite GAS4188A so far all the regular places do not have a pulley. They just want to sell me a conversion to a Delco Alt. Ford used an Autolite on the 2ns & 9Ns that had a screw on pulley. Maybe that will work...