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Cletrac Tractor Discussion => All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General => Topic started by: Doug424 on January 03, 2011, 01:08:59 AM

Title: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Doug424 on January 03, 2011, 01:08:59 AM
I know there aren't many OC-96 owners out there, but just wondered if anyone here might have some experience working on the brakes. The master cylinders look like an old car or forklift cylinder, just thinking they might be the same as a stock unit that could be bought easily. I could find kits and rebuild mine if I don't find anything.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on January 03, 2011, 01:22:48 AM
I think they are the same as something automotive. We had one when I was very little and I could run it when then as it took no physical effort. Let me see what I can find for you.

Blake
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Tim Ling on January 03, 2011, 01:30:48 PM
Could you post a picture of the Master Cylinder? Do you know the bore of the cylinder? I think NAPA could get you either kits or a replacement cylinder. You may have to take the cylinder with you to get a proper match. I work for NAPA, and we have parts books with pictures of a lot of older parts that are still available.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on January 04, 2011, 01:42:19 AM
And hopefully you don't get some rummie dumb that can only look up stuff on the computer. If its not on the computer it doesn't exist! LOL

Bob
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Tim Ling on January 04, 2011, 01:23:01 PM
Yeah, Bob I know what you mean. We have 4 guys at our store with over 32 years experience each. They know the parts business, and where to find them. We use the paper catalogs as much as we use the computer. A lot of industrial parts just can't be found on the computer and you must know where to look in the catalogs. Some catalogs have what are called Buyers Guides, these have pictures and descriptions of the various parts, and are great for finding industrial parts. NAPA has resources for industrial parts that a lot of the other parts stores don't have. Try going into one of the other stores and asking for a head gasket for a F245 Continental engine, they will be lost.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: LoggerLee on January 04, 2011, 03:52:26 PM
Try asking any of them about a starter for a F-226 Continental with the starter mounted "high"
I "think" I found one,only $250,maybe...but will they take a return? prolly not.
going to have to find another way to start that combine,I ain't spending $250 just to see how it runs.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Tim Ling on January 04, 2011, 05:12:24 PM
See if you can get a number off the old starter, and I will see if we can cross reference it to our number. Perhaps I can get you a NAPA number to use at your local store.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: John Schwiebert on January 05, 2011, 01:04:11 AM
That F-226 combine engine must be on an Oliver combine!
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on January 05, 2011, 03:09:41 AM
The local NAPA store has always been good to us, but the people behiend the counter might not be there forever :( Other places are definately worse. I do have a local big truck / construction equipment parts store that tries very hard to find what I'm looking for. The girl behiend the counter sees me and asks every time "What kind of weird exotic thing do you need now!?" And we laugh and the search is on! :D

Bob

That starter wouldn't be the same as an old Willy's Jeep by some slim chance?
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on January 06, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
I talked with my uncle today and he said the OC-96 used automotive brakes, but he didn't know exactly what kind. They're pretty simple in how they work - just a master cylinder on each steering pedal. I thought they were hooked into the tractor's hydraulic system, but they aren't. Besides NAPA, you may want to check with a Case dealer as they took that same steering system for some of their tractors.

Blake
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: LoggerLee on January 07, 2011, 07:47:28 PM
Quote from: John Schwiebert on January 05, 2011, 01:04:11 AM
That F-226 combine engine must be on an Oliver combine!

Yeah,Oliver 35 hillside,when I bought my AC Model M the guy said I could have that combine over there,turned out to be pretty much complete...

Quote from: Tim Ling on January 04, 2011, 05:12:24 PM
See if you can get a number off the old starter, and I will see if we can cross reference it to our number. Perhaps I can get you a NAPA number to use at your local store.
I'm sure they might be able to,but there's no starter on it at all,just a hole.
I contacted a "Continental expert" he could not help me,wanted a part number...some expert.

I'm going to just start it off a pto belt (I hope) and see what happens.
If all else is lost I'll drag it back with the dumptruck,it's a ways,but the combine was going to be a long ride anyway.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on June 24, 2012, 03:28:54 PM
Doug did you ever find anything on those master cylinders? I just picked up an OC9 bulldozer and it is in need of them. Do you have any extra parts for the 96 or 9? I need a dash panel and some other little pieces parts
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Robert Barbour on June 24, 2012, 05:41:53 PM
Bob, if you are looking for a 96 one just showed up on E-Bay today. 5K located in Fishkill New York.  One of the better looking ones I have seen come up for sale.   Would buy it in a flash if it was close to me, but I am on the west coast!
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on June 24, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
Robert I just spyed that myself a bit ago. I would love to have it, but don't think I can swing 5k for it right now. Looks like a beauty!

Bob

I was playing with mine and it decided to randomly quit moving. I think it has to do with the hi/lo manual shift part, but who knows
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Doug424 on June 25, 2012, 01:25:38 AM
No,, I got stalled on that project as the OC-96 has a very weak transmission. When I bought it it was weak,, and now I can barely get it to move in low range. As far as any parts,, sorry I have nothing. I just noticed a few OC-96's show up for sale, the one on ebay, and also there was one up your way near Erie for $7500.  They are an interesting machine,,,,, but not at $5000 or more in my opinion.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2012, 01:37:21 AM
Yeah I agree Doug. I'd say 5k would be max for a nice one. Would you sell the one you have? Maybe between two I could make a really nice one.

Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Doug424 on June 25, 2012, 02:18:08 AM
No, I really don't want to sell it at this time. From what I understand the transmission is fixable, a matter of some O rings that fail and you lose pressure on the clutch packs. Of course its a major job to get to those 50 cent O rings. But, if the situation changes, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on June 25, 2012, 03:37:29 AM
Ask my uncle Howard. I think he knows quite a bit about the details of the OC-96.
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Robert Barbour on June 25, 2012, 03:54:07 PM
I would pay 5K for a nice one if it were close to me. Truckers around here charge $80 an hour so moving costs are high, and that is lost money as it does not add any value to the machine.  1K does not move one very far! 
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2012, 11:06:34 PM
OK Doug, had to ask.

Blake, I'll have to get his email or phone from you. Still not sure what my problem is, but, we'll figure it out.

Bob
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: oliverchris on June 25, 2012, 11:08:16 PM
I think I read somewhere that tracks parts were impossible - pins and bushings. Is that true?
Title: Re: OC-96 Brake Question
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
If I found a trucking co that charged $80 an hour here, I'd just have them move equipment for me and bill me, then I'd send the bill to my customer and make a couple bucks for doing nothing. I guess I'd say feel treated fair at $80, it is alot of money, but...

I think I may have found pins and bushings. My rails are good, but needs pins bushings. Wheels are close to an OC12, or an AD.