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Cletrac Tractor Discussion => HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General => Topic started by: jkoepke on July 23, 2011, 03:13:00 AM

Title: hg differential oil
Post by: jkoepke on July 23, 2011, 03:13:00 AM
 hi there,got a new axle yesterday going to put it in next week ;). does anybody know what weight of oil i should use in the differential and the outer final drive and how much oil each this will take. also looked at the motor was wondering what type i have its a gas 4cylinder with distributor on right hand side intake and exhaust on the left starter is in the middle by your feet it has a water pump on top pulley. thank you very much
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on July 23, 2011, 01:42:57 PM
The type of oil is 50 wt non-detergent motor oil.

Blake
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: oliverchris on July 24, 2011, 03:49:14 PM
Search on this topic: Re: transmission oil in Canada? results so far

I did a bunch of research on who has what available...for example:

Shell have Dentax 80w90 GL1 in 20lt. @ $70. But it has been discontinued for some time - so just available until stocks have gone. Have tried to order some.
The Esso Marvelube 80w90 seems to be available half an hour from me (thanks Robert!) 20lt. is $80 and 60lt. $230
The Castrol folks have a GL1 straight gear oil product but were rather unhelpful - so I gave up (but thanks Hotratz)
And the product Zimmerman's sell is Warren Oil 90w gear oil (@ $12/gallon = $3.17/litre = same as Dentax)


I have been using the Dentax out of 20lt. pails (5.283 US gals)
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: hotratz on July 24, 2011, 04:41:29 PM
This is what I found. Napa p/n 65-206, 90w GL-1. You should be able to ask your
Napa dealer to order some. My dealer had this on the shelf. Granted, they only had the one bucket though.
Sometimes the 50W non-detergent motor oil is easier to find apparently. Works the same.

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL83/533924/8893166/397826753.jpg)
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on July 24, 2011, 08:52:40 PM
Where are you at jkoepke? You left it out of your profile. Your location may help us provide a source for you.
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on July 24, 2011, 08:54:28 PM
Here in the northwestern Pennsylvania area you can buy all the 50 wt non-detergent you want as they make it right in Warren at United Refining Co. Several distributors have it on hand.

Bob - do you know if they make it in Bradford at American Refining Group as well?

Blake
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: LoggerLee on July 25, 2011, 02:06:39 AM
I've been using "ford tractor transmission oil"
It's the stuff I've found that works, $15 for a 2.5 gallon jug.
Get it at D&B here in Lewiston
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: oliverchris on July 25, 2011, 03:46:50 PM
I am sure I recall reading that it is important to get the right formulation as per the manual - one that does not corrode the bronze that is used in some components...or did I dream that?
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on July 25, 2011, 04:15:33 PM
Yes that is important. Plus you don't want anything with friction modifiers or extreme pressure components, such as hypoid additives. Remember, for the steering bands to work properly they must grip on the drums, so you don't want to make the oil "slipperyer" than regular motor oil.

Blake
Title: Re: hg differential oil
Post by: hotratz on July 26, 2011, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: LoggerLee on July 25, 2011, 02:06:39 AM
I've been using "ford tractor transmission oil"
It's the stuff I've found that works, $15 for a 2.5 gallon jug.
Get it at D&B here in Lewiston


This web site also lists the Napa 65-205 for use in Ford N tractors http://www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/pdfs/NAPA_Part_Numbers.pdf (http://www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/pdfs/NAPA_Part_Numbers.pdf)
The important thing is it's a GL-1 oil and Not a GL-5