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Cletrac Tractor Discussion => All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General => Topic started by: hsaele12 on October 13, 2017, 12:29:13 PM

Title: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: hsaele12 on October 13, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
I have a Model BGSH serial # 8C960 built in 1946, I don't know what engine was in it originally, I am replacing it with a Hercules model JXC and am wondering if this is the same engine?  thank you for any help you can give me.
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: Robert Barbour on October 16, 2017, 04:14:51 PM
The original engine was a JXD engine. It has a bigger bore than the JXC.  Both engines will fit, but there are two kinds of JX engines. Those with 3 timing gears and those with 5. Cletrac used the 5 gear engine and it has provision for the governor the 3 gear engine does not.  Look at the front gear cover on your JXC, if it is wider than the block on both sides it is a 5 gear engine, if only on one side, a 3 gear engine.  You could use a 3 gear engine but you would need to install some kind of belt driven governor or a foot gas pedal!
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: hsaele12 on October 19, 2017, 01:02:24 AM
Thanks for the information Robert I will check and see which engine I have.
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: hsaele12 on October 19, 2017, 11:00:12 AM
Checked the JXC last night and appears to have the wide front cover with the governor on one side and water pump on the other.  Now I just have to figure out how to get 6 ext. valves out.  Mice have gotten in the ext. manifold some time over the last 50 years. It hasn't been going very well.  We took the JXC engine out of a 27 Massy Harris Combine.   
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: Robert Barbour on October 19, 2017, 05:23:39 PM
That is good that you have the correct engine set up. Do you have the old engine?  You will need the bellhousing from it.  This is just a flat plate that is between the engine and clutch housing, it is unique to the Cletrac.  Zimmerman Oliver-Cletrac may have one if you need it.
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: hsaele12 on October 20, 2017, 02:12:24 AM
Yes I have the bellhousing that is correct. I did get all the valves out today I had to use heat to loosen them up and then slowly push him out with the lifter adjustment. Now I will start working on getting the Pistons loose which I don't think are stuck too bad. The old engine was toast but I do have all the parts that came with it.
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: hsaele12 on October 27, 2017, 02:24:11 AM
I have the engine completely disassembled and the block and associated parts are at the machine shop.  Question, I get an error when trying to open paint codes.  What is the correct paint color and is the engine same color as the crawler?
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: Blake Malkamaki on October 29, 2017, 06:09:05 AM
I'm not sure if it will work, but if the pistons from the JXD are good, you might be able to have the block bored to fit them.
Title: Re: Do I have the correct engine for my BGSH?
Post by: hsaele12 on October 29, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Decided to put the jxc engine in aside from the valves needing attention the rest of engine looks good.  It will probably will not see hard work again.