AG Project

Started by Jeff M, February 06, 2010, 04:35:09 AM

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Jeff M

My father has an AG (at least I think it's an AG).  It was used as an orchard tractor in the 60's and then in 70 he noticed a lot of bearing material in the oil when he changed it.  He tore it down and realized that the motor needed to be rebuilt and that's where it was left, in his shop.  Fast forward 40 years and here it is, still with all the parts underneath the tractor in his shop.  I really don't know how much effort it would be to go through the motor, replace the bearings and hone the cylinders for new pistions, or what the value to someone who is interested in restoring this neat little tractor may be.  My dad says he does not have the energy to restore it, and I am not sure if it's a project I am willing to take on.  The tractor is complete with the exception of the upper sidecovers for the engine.  He has two heads (one cracked).  Any ideas what the value would be if I was to put it up for sale?  Here is a link to some photos of it:  http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/m ... =slideshow

Thanks!

hotratz

WOW! what a good place to start. Looks like that tractor is in pretty nice shape. What part of the country are you in?

Jeff M

Thanks!  It is in real good shape, except the motor.  All the bands were replaced a year before it was stored.  
  I am in NW Oregon.

Bob

The engine really shouldn't be too hard to rebuild, as long as the rod bearings are in good shape. It could still be fixed if the rods were bad, but would be more expensive. It does look to be in really good shape and would be a worth while project. If you decide not to fix it, I don't think it would be too hard to sell. I hate putting prices on someone else's deals so...
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hotratz

Let us know what you decide to do. Another restoration would be fun to watch but if you decide to sell let us know. I'm not that far away from you. Another project is the last thing I need but I said that three projects ago.  :lol:

Jeff M

Quote from: "Bob"The engine really shouldn't be too hard to rebuild, as long as the rod bearings are in good shape.

Unfortunately the rod bearings are the reason it was torn down.  They would have to be replaced and new (oversize) pistons fitted.  Probably should address the valves and springs while it's apart.  What is the most economical parts source for bearings, pistons and probably valve springs/seals while I am at it?  (Hercules ooc engine I believe)

Thanks!

Bob

I would think it would have babbit bearings. I don't know who re does them. I have a running engine I might part with.

Bob
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Blake Malkamaki

We need to find some shops who pour babbit bearings and get them to advertise on the site. I know we would send them a lot of business. If anyone deals with a good shop like that, ask them if they are willing to deal with some long-distance business, and want to buy a display ad.

Blake
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walter hudson

There is a later style rod that fits the OOC which uses insert bearings . I have torn apart several that had this done . The inserts are still available .
Walter

countryguy828

I guess I don't know Cletracs very well then. I thought AGs used the Continental F226. :(

I have a friend with a shop who can pour babbit, at least he said he wouldn't have any trouble pouring it for my OOC that'll go in my model E.
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 He is also the President of our local club. Darke County Steam Threshers.
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John Schwiebert

Well the early AG tractors used the Hercules engine. Then the war (1943)  stopped the source of the Hercules engines. After that the tractor used a Continental F-226. Those models are known as the AG-6 because of the 6 cylinder engine. So you have about 8-9 years of production where they had the Hercules and the last 10 years so to say used the Continental ( Idid not check exact years of production)
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