Anyone have ideas for replacement motor?

Started by Willo, June 29, 2006, 05:42:42 AM

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Willo

If my hunt for Hercules or Buda 4 cyl diesel fails , can anyone give me ideas for a 4 cyl diesel that will fill the gap?

cheers willo

Carl Besola

#1
Find an old Mercedes Benz 240D engine, they're tuff as nails and run forever.
We can dig it!

Willo

#2
Hey good one would never have thought of that .some people suggest perkins but this sounds better
cheers willo

Blake Malkamaki

#3
Quote from: "Carl Besola"Find an old Mercedes Benz 240D engine, they're tuff as nails and run forever.

I have a Benz 200D (almost identical to a 240D) engine for sale, that, along with its 4 speed, would be perfect for an HG.

But, it is no way big enough for a larger Cletrac like a model A.

Blake
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John Schwiebert

#4
The other year when I was over in the U. K. I looked at a model B Crawler with a 354 Perkins in it. It was a nice fit. I think for a Model  A, I would measure up for the 26/248 Perkins.
John Schwiebert

John Schwiebert

#5
That should be a 236 not a 26. Sorry about that. Also a 300 or 318 would be a good engine. I have no measurements. John
John Schwiebert

Blake Malkamaki

#6
Perhaps a 4 cylinder turbo Cummins. Basically the same engine as the B series as used in Dodge pickups, only 4 cylinder. I believe these are used in delivery vehicles and are not too hard to find.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

peter de vries

#7
I would personally look for a 4cyl diesel out of an international tractor from the 1960 or 70 period. they are very common in Australia and were fitted to numerous wheel and crawler tractors of the time. They are a slower revving motor which the AD needs and have the correct type of governor fitted for crawler work. a 4 cyl perkins from a fergy tractor would also be suitable i would think. Be careful when getting engines from trucks as they dont have the correct type of governor fitted and will bog down when loaded up requiring constant changes of the hand throttle to keep the same ground speed. I have a 6-354 perkins in one of my ddh cletracs and it too has the governor from a truck and makes for lots of throttle changes when dozing to prevent either bogging down or over-rev when the load comes off.

Willo

#8
Thanks guys that really gives me some options, has to be better than the 215 Valiant motor we are running now, don't laugh it was free and kinda works. :D

cheers willo

Willo

#9
Hey guys I hit pay dirt and have found a Herc for my AD, it just pays to keep looking and it's not far from where I live
Cheers Willo :D

peter de vries

#10
wow, that was lucky! hope it comes with all the accessories and mounting plate etc. parts are getting harder to find these days. if he has other bits of ad cletracs you should grab them before they get cut up for scrap. with the price of scrap steel around $$125 a ton in australia lots of old machinery is going to the scrappers these days. good luck, regards Pete

Willo

#11
it has everything including clucth an old friend of my father inlaws said he had an old motor they had on a pump years ago on the farm, he took us down to a shed and there it was, needs work but it is all there still canot beileve my luck
cheers willo :D