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Robert Barbour

June 27, 2002, 01:09:22 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Robert Barbour
I have a DGH and a Friend had an OC 4 loader which I have operated.  The main problem with both machines is the lack of a foot brake peddle.  You need 4 hands to stop on a hill to shift and operate the loader or dozer.  You folks with other models, do any of them have a foot brake? Comments!
Robert from Vancouver Island BC

Blake Malkamaki

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June 27, 2002, 04:21:26 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Blake
It's one of the short commings of a Cletrac that was trying to be overcome in the later years when Oliver would not put much money into the crawlers. My OC-12 has a foot brake, but it is about worthless - they wear out very fast if used. I believe the OC-96 had a foot brake pedal along with the steering pedals. Not sure about the late OC-4.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Robert Barbour

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June 28, 2002, 12:19:19 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Robert Barbour
Blake, on your OC 12 does the foor pedel operate a separate brake or does it operate the two steering brakes together?  You are right it is one of Cletrac's few short comings!
Robert from Vancouver Island BC

Blake Malkamaki

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June 28, 2002, 12:31:54 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Blake
Quoteon your OC 12 does the floor pedel operate a separate brake or does it operate the two steering brakes together? You are right it is one of Cletrac's few short comings!

It operates a separate brake - a dry brake that I believe is on the impute shaft to the transmission. Way undersized and wears out quickly.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Robert Barbour

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June 28, 2002, 12:41:55 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Robert Barbour
If the brake is on the input shaft it should be relatively easy to get at and change.    That kind of setup is used on a lot of trucks, maybe a larger brake from a truck could a adapted to fit for longer service.
Robert from Vancouver Island BC

Blake Malkamaki

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June 28, 2002, 01:03:23 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Blake
From what I recall, it's just a little pad of brake lining. I don't think there's enough room in there for much more.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Crawler Boy

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June 29, 2002, 07:03:02 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Crawler Boy
On my OC-3 it only has hand level brakes

John D

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July 22, 2002, 05:24:21 PM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by John D
I was working with my AG-6 on a hillside this past weekend, and sure could have used a footbrake!  
Between the throttle, 2 hand brakes, and the gearshift, it certainly was a challenge.
John D
If you want to do what you want to do, you have to do what you have to do.

G Gibby

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September 02, 2002, 01:27:33 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by G Gibby
Zen, is what it's all about.
If the brakes are good, then the levers give all the stopping power you need.
I have not really pined for a foot brake, but I think it would be neat to
have a Hrydualic control on the right foot peddle or maybe an accelerator.
If the govenor is working properly then an accelerator is not really needed.
I have found than I am steering the tractor single armed many times.
The other arm is shifting and ajusting the dozer blade or trottle if needed.
When everything is running right then the "Zen" of the situation cancels out any stort coming
that may or may not be there.
Keep Welll,
GG:cool:

Blake Malkamaki

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September 02, 2002, 02:13:55 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by Blake
George,

A de-accelorator is the way to go. Then you can step on the de-accelorator and shift, then let off an the engine's running it's normal speed again.

I think our AD loader has one. And I recall the OC-96 had one too.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

G Gibby

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September 03, 2002, 12:38:22 AM Last Edit: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM by G Gibby
Blake, A de-accelorator sounds like a useful
device to run the tractor faster and with more fuild of motion of the operator and the machine.
Admittedly my experience of crawlers is limited to the HG and OC-3's.
I have thought of maybe getting a different model of machine, but I would need to sell off something else.
I am not ready to part with what I have now.
So, I'll wait, I like what I have I guess.
Keep well all,
GG:cool:
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