Slight Freeezing problem - pics

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March 08, 2012, 08:19:59 PM Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 08:23:03 PM by oliverchris
Could not get 'new' machine to move off trailer  >:( - here's why?  ::)
And the remedy - Bosch heat gun or wait til Spring  ;)
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

Blake Malkamaki

#1
March 08, 2012, 09:49:32 PM
Did you get her thawed out? It's surprising how much energy it takes to melt that much ice - and it seems even worse when it's connected to frozen cast iron.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

oliverchris

#2
March 08, 2012, 10:01:50 PM
Yeah, got her off the trailer eventually. The trans gears were also frozen-up so I had to take filler and bottom plugs out and direct warm air through the gear case! Water was dripping out all over me lying underneath! Luckily it seems the finals drives did not have any water, which surprised me with ice up to the differential bearings.
Now I cannot select 1st or reverse because the previous owner tried to force it with all that ice in there. Probably bent one of the yokes and/or shafts. I hope I don't have to get the whole rear end free to remedy that. Ideas anyone?
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

hotratz

#3
March 09, 2012, 10:24:28 PM Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 10:28:28 PM by hotratz
HA!  I would have been tempted to light a bag of briquettes under the transaxle and roasted some kielbasa while waiting.  ;D  

If that's an OC-4 I don't think you can get into the gearbox without pulling it out of the frame. At least I wasn't smart enough to figure that out when I replaced my reverse idler gear.

oliverchris

#4
March 10, 2012, 09:21:38 PM
Its an OC3, but I think the problem is much the same. Grrr!
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

Blake Malkamaki

#5
March 11, 2012, 04:11:37 AM
If you knew it was frozen and didn't want to pull it apart, you could mix some methanol and hot water and pour into the case. That should thaw it out, then you could just drain it out.
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

oliverchris

#6
March 11, 2012, 05:08:46 PM
Good idea, Blake! That would have been a lot easier for the trans gears.
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

oliverchris

#7
March 26, 2012, 07:03:48 PM
On the stuck First and Reverse Gear problem, I filled the whole transmission with Kerosene for a day. Then a sharp tap with a rubber mallet, and it freed right up  ;D Guess the rail was rusted/gummed up.
Very happy now!
Now, if I can figure out how to remedy that the previous owner removed the clutch pedal and put a different one in there, cutting off the original stops in the process!
Duh! So if you de-clutch too far, it's not nice  >:(
But I am getting there. I have to show you the bucket on this thing. Most aggressive teeth I have ever seen, and a wee bit too much for an OC3 with an OC46 bucket!
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

oliverchris

#8
April 02, 2012, 10:35:21 PM
QuoteI have to show you the bucket on this thing. Most aggressive teeth I have ever seen, and a wee bit too much for an OC3 with an OC46 bucket!
See what I mean?!  :o
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

Blake Malkamaki

#9
April 03, 2012, 02:07:39 AM
They look like backhoe teeth to me. Not loader bucket teeth.
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

bluegrallis

#10
April 18, 2012, 04:15:27 PM
Stand the bucket up and back through a field and it could be a chisel plow:)
Die hard Allis Chalmers collector. But then I found "SCOOPY"

LoggerLee

#11
April 20, 2012, 07:33:24 PM
I used the DDH to unload a BDH that I picked up, it had a bunch of water in it too I guess, it loaded easy over in Seattle when I picked it up (50*) when I tried to unload it a couple days later at home it wouldn't roll....lol good thing I had that big tractor...
3DDH tractors,Allis Chalmers M crawler,T-20,BDH,2112 Simplicity and a GT30 Terratrac.

Bill Seal

#12
April 25, 2012, 04:02:01 PM
It's amazing the amount of rain water that can run down the shift lever and ruin the transmission.

Unfortunately, I speak from experience. :(
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