OOC Manifold

Started by Johnny lunch pail, November 08, 2015, 12:22:44 PM

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Johnny lunch pail

The Manifold on my E-38 is a mess so I chose to build one out of steel. The following pictures and text illustrate how I am going about this project and weather or not i succeed, wish me luck.
The First pic is of the manifold as it looked once removed from the engine. I then cleaned up all the bolt holes and built a small frame to line everything back up and to use as an assembly jig. The next couple of pictures are of the intake/exhaust flange taking shape.
JLP

Johnny lunch pail

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Here's a couple more progress pictures.....
1-1/2'' schedule 40 weld elbows are a near perfect match for the elbows on the existing manifold.
JLP

countryguy828

Looking good, I will be following your progress

Dave
1941 Cletrac HG
1936 Cletrac E
1949 Allis-Chalmers B
1952 Allis-Chalmers CA

Blake Malkamaki

Wow! It looks really good! What kind of fittings are you using to make the new one from?

Where I used to work they made their pipelines from food-grade weldable 304 SS fittings. They were all pre beveled and ready to weld. I thought those would be a good choice to build a manifold from.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Johnny lunch pail

Hi Blake and Dave,
I'm using Domestic (Weld bend) 1-1/2'' schedule 40 long radius (2-1/4'' CLR) weld elbows. Any plumbing supply house carries them. So far the 2 intake sides are pretty much fitted out and I have been working on the exhaust ports for cylinders 2 and 3. I tried a few different layouts and the best one seems to be whats in the 2nd picture ( a combination of miter cut square tube and pipe split and welded together.
The first image shows cylinders 2 and 3's exhaust ports on the existing manifold for comparison.
The 2nd image shows how I framed those 2 exhaust ports.
Image 3 shows the exhaust flange, I put a bevel in it to accept a 2'' automotive Donut gasket, if I choose to use it.
The last picture is everything so far loosely fitted together.
I know this build is hard to follow and even harder to describe ???.
JLP

Blake Malkamaki

Looks like you're doing great! I would be a little concerned with the exhaust portion rusting out if using carbon steel. It's not like cast iron. But, if you keep the machine inside and keep the manifold oiled when not in use you should be ok.

Blake
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Johnny lunch pail

You're right about steel rusting faster than cast iron, but they don't make these manifolds any more and for the amount of use this old girls going to get, I'm sure the steel manifold will last for quite some time. Leaving it out in the weather is what caused all of the problems, She has inside storage now ;D
JLP

Blake Malkamaki

You'll probably be ok.

Once you get the hang of this and get the bugs worked out, I see a market for making these manifolds. There are NONE available as of now. And I think the way you are going about it is a good plan.
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Johnny lunch pail

Thanks for the encouragement Blake,
Please don't jinx me by talking about selling them, I haven't gotten thru this one yet . Cutting and fitting all the pieces is one thing. welding it all together without warping the heck out of it is a whole different story, this thing still has a long way to go.
JLP

Johnny lunch pail

I welded it all together, it stayed nice and flat, here;s a couple of progress pics....
JLP

Blake Malkamaki

My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

biggurn

I'm glad mine could be welded! Well done!
194? Cletrac HG42 w/ Allis Chalmers B125 power pack engine conversion, hydraulic dozer blade
1932 Cletrac 20C, rebuilt OOC, tractor restored to "work clothes"
1929 Case Model L tractor
1946 Mighty Midget tracked garden tractor
1948 David Bradley Garden Tractor
1983 John Deere 317 Garden Tractor w/ loader
I also collect chainsaws, air cooled engines,  and hit&miss engines.  Recently restored a Cat Sixty.

Johnny lunch pail

Hey Guys,
I had a chance to make some progress on the manifold.
JLP

Blake Malkamaki

My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

Bob

Dad and I with help of our welder pal patched up an intake manifold for an Allis over the summer. Welded a pipe T into it. Only problem seems to be that is has a small leak, and ices up slowly... But when new isn't available you gotta do what you can. Your manifold is looking very nice!
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