1944 Cletrac BGS

[jjbath]

I am looking at a 1944 Cletrac BGS with I believe a 6 or 7 ft. Heil blade.

Does anyone know how much it weighs?
I have been search the web and can't find any information on its weight.

I have a 7000lb tandem axle trailer and I don't want to destroy it.

Thanks in advance.

[Robert Barbour]

The tractor alone weights 8550 lbs I would expect the blade, frame and hydraulics to add 2000 to 2500 lbs. that brings the total to close to 11,000 lbs. That would be beyond the capacity of that trailor!!

[jjbath]

Thanks for the quick response.

It doesn't look like it can weigh that much.
The seller said he thought it was in the 4000 lb
range.

From the photos it appears to be about the size of a JD 350 or maybe smaller.

I'll attach the image.

[cletracboy]

The weight quoted sounds about right to me I've weighted my BD on a weigh bridge and it was over 4ton without any blade and thats got to add another half ton, sorry not exactly sure what that is in lb but probably combined 11,00lb +. Hope this helps. Also is the vendor sure it a BG?

[jjbath]

From what I can tell it seems to be a BGS.
(I'm not that familiar with Cletrac).

Did you look at the picture I posted previosly?
Can you tell from the picture?

Thanks

[Ray]

jjbath,

Yes it looks like a BGS, As far as the weight, Robert is right, just the crawler weighs  approx 8600 lbs. and the Heil dozer assembly must be 2000 lbs or more.

Ray

[Blake Malkamaki]

Originally posted by jjbath
From the photos it appears to be about the size of a JD 350 or maybe smaller.
 

No, they are much bigger than a JD 350. Bigger than a 450.

[Blake Malkamaki]

Here's your image. I reduced it as it exceeded the 100K limit in the posting rules.

[cletracboy]

it does look like a BG but I just wounderd with the you thinking its smaller whether it may be an AG6. I'm not sure how to tell the difference from a photo. Sam

[Blake Malkamaki]

Are the bolts that hold the track pads to the rails in a line or are they wider at the front or back of each pad? In line = A. One pair wider = B or larger.

[Robert Barbour]

Do you have a serial number or engine model number, they will help to identify the tractor.  With a 7 ft blade it may be an AG. My OC12 has a 9 ft blade and it was the upgraded version of the BD and is 12,000 lbs with winch and dozer. for reference a JD 350 dozer is a 11,000 lb machine and a JD 450 is 14,000 lbs. My JD 450 loader with backhoe weight is 20,000 lbs. and it will out pull my DGH, but the OC 15 will out pull them all!

[jjbath]

In the other pictures I have the track pad bolts are not inline.
Also I found that this machine is actually in your photo gallery. The seller is a member.

I was supposed to go look at it this morning but the weather didn't cooperate. I will try again tomorrow.

I have been talking to some friends of mine who say that this machine is front heavy and may not be the best for finish grading.
What do you guys think?
I have 11 acres and am slowly clearing it for my Girfriends horses. I just need it to occasionlly do some grading.


Thanks

[Blake Malkamaki]

None of these dozers with the side linkage for the blade and the long overhang in the front are as good for grading as the later models, such as the OC-12 with the hydraulic cylinders mounted on the sides of the radiator and the track frames extended to the front of the radiator, which give much more control. The BG probably has springs, where the OC-12 has a walking beam, hence no bobbing like the B.

But, in the long run, it is going to depend mostly on your skills and how you master the tractor with time.

Clearing a pasture should be easy work for the BG. You're not trying to grade an area table top smooth like if you were making a huge parking lot or something.

Good luck.

[jjbath]

Thanks for the info.

What  do you think its worth?
It runs but probably needs a new carb.