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#31
HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: Which would you get ... OC...
Last post by mikegt4 - January 07, 2020, 05:10:45 AMI have an OC3 with a small loader and a OC46 (first year with the same 4 cylinder engine as the OC3). My OC46 will work circles around my OC3 despite having considerably more weight with the same power. A 3 cylinder OC46 will work circles around my 4 cyl version, a 50% increase in power & torque. BTW. my sprung OC3 rides like a Rolls Royce compared to the solid suspension of the OC46.
#32
HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Which would you get ... OC3 or...
Last post by nikoli - January 07, 2020, 04:07:13 AMI currently have 3 OC3's. The first is an OC3 with an Anderson Dozer, the second is an OC3 with a 3WI Ware Loader, and the third is an OC3 with 12" tracks and used as a farm crawler for discs and plows. I have a piece of property on the opposite coast that I am looking to clear of heavy brush and decaying trees where most are down and rotting (nothing more than 10" in diameter). So, knowing that I've had the limitations of my current OC3's in terms of too high a first gear to function well as a dozer or loader used as a clearing machine ..... I set my sights on looking for an OC4. I figured that I would also jump into the world of the 3-cylinder diesel models as well .... if I could find one. It doesn't make too much sense moving one of my crawlers 3000 miles to use on the opposite coast for this endeavor. In addition, once this 5 acres is cleared I would need to maintain it with a brush hog or mower of some type.
I've come across a few machines that may fit the bill for this need. The first is local to me where my 3 OC3's reside ... an Alpha Track OC4 diesel, series B. Very cool looking machine ... but maybe not really practical as a dozer for overgrown ground vegetation. The cost of the machine itself (on the high end) plus the transport, plus the fact the rear drive tires are non-existent set the odds against me for this choice. Nonetheless, a very sweet machine that I may just have to find another use for to add to my collection in the near future.
The second choice is an OC46 Loader (3-cylinder diesel) an hour from the location for the need, also with a reverser. This is the model prior to the series B, but not the first OC4's that came out. Price is on the high side from what I've been accustomed to for these machines, but not too high or as high as the alpha track. This same owner also has an OC3 with a dozer and 3-point hitch available for roughly the same price as the OC4 noted. The 3-point hitch is a nice option and may be of use with a 3-point Cat-1 four or five foot brush hog for my mowing need. The downside ... not having the low speed first gear of the OC4.
A last option is another OC3 with an Anderson Dozer only 30 minutes from my place of need. The price is less than half of the other options, but it comes with a few caveats. Although it looks great and was supposedly restored to some degree some 5 years ago, it has sat unused with a stuck clutch. Already knowing that sitting OC3's get clutches stuck from time to time, that doesn't bother me. But, the owner noted that it does roll for loading onto a trailer. So, how can an OC3 with a stuck clutch freely roll?
I am going to be looking at all of these machines in the coming days, so I would like to get some opinions on this new addition to the family ... whatever it may be.
Questions:
1. Do you feel that the OC46 diesel loader with the reverser at the high price would trump the OC3 dozers for this clearing operation?
2. Is the 3-point hitch OC3 dozer worth the same price as above AND will it be of equal benefit to clearing overgrowth, ground brush as the loader?
3. Is the OC3 that has been sitting worth getting for less than half the price of the others, providing that the dozer option is preferred over the loader option? This is a very early OC3 with HG style idlers, track frames, final drives, and rear diff cover/hitch. My OC3 that almost mimics this with the Anderson Blade is a year later and has all the better OC3 improvements with the heavier Main Springs, Heavier Track Frames, Solid Idler Wheels, heavier rear diff cover and drawbar.
What would you choose and why?
I've come across a few machines that may fit the bill for this need. The first is local to me where my 3 OC3's reside ... an Alpha Track OC4 diesel, series B. Very cool looking machine ... but maybe not really practical as a dozer for overgrown ground vegetation. The cost of the machine itself (on the high end) plus the transport, plus the fact the rear drive tires are non-existent set the odds against me for this choice. Nonetheless, a very sweet machine that I may just have to find another use for to add to my collection in the near future.
The second choice is an OC46 Loader (3-cylinder diesel) an hour from the location for the need, also with a reverser. This is the model prior to the series B, but not the first OC4's that came out. Price is on the high side from what I've been accustomed to for these machines, but not too high or as high as the alpha track. This same owner also has an OC3 with a dozer and 3-point hitch available for roughly the same price as the OC4 noted. The 3-point hitch is a nice option and may be of use with a 3-point Cat-1 four or five foot brush hog for my mowing need. The downside ... not having the low speed first gear of the OC4.
A last option is another OC3 with an Anderson Dozer only 30 minutes from my place of need. The price is less than half of the other options, but it comes with a few caveats. Although it looks great and was supposedly restored to some degree some 5 years ago, it has sat unused with a stuck clutch. Already knowing that sitting OC3's get clutches stuck from time to time, that doesn't bother me. But, the owner noted that it does roll for loading onto a trailer. So, how can an OC3 with a stuck clutch freely roll?
I am going to be looking at all of these machines in the coming days, so I would like to get some opinions on this new addition to the family ... whatever it may be.
Questions:
1. Do you feel that the OC46 diesel loader with the reverser at the high price would trump the OC3 dozers for this clearing operation?
2. Is the 3-point hitch OC3 dozer worth the same price as above AND will it be of equal benefit to clearing overgrowth, ground brush as the loader?
3. Is the OC3 that has been sitting worth getting for less than half the price of the others, providing that the dozer option is preferred over the loader option? This is a very early OC3 with HG style idlers, track frames, final drives, and rear diff cover/hitch. My OC3 that almost mimics this with the Anderson Blade is a year later and has all the better OC3 improvements with the heavier Main Springs, Heavier Track Frames, Solid Idler Wheels, heavier rear diff cover and drawbar.
What would you choose and why?
#33
All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Cletrac 35
Last post by Don wilson - November 22, 2019, 11:03:11 AMI recently acquired a 1933 Cletrac 35. Currently painted orange. I think this is not the correct color. Can someone verify correct color. Also does anyone know where some top and bottom rollers can be found. Mine have worn clear down into the housings. I guess they maybe welded up. Otherwise the tractor is in very good condition.
Thanks Don
Thanks Don
#34
HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: wake up?
Last post by outbackrider - November 07, 2019, 03:22:28 PMBlake,
I appreciate that you keep this forum up. It has a lot of great information in it and I hope
somehow it can be captured for future use. We need the younger generation to be able
to research these great machines and be able to fix 'em.
Thanks again!
I appreciate that you keep this forum up. It has a lot of great information in it and I hope
somehow it can be captured for future use. We need the younger generation to be able
to research these great machines and be able to fix 'em.
Thanks again!
#35
Subjects Related To All Models / 1933 Cletrac 35
Last post by Don wilson - October 31, 2019, 10:11:57 AMlooking for Cletrac 35 parts tractor. I need undercarriage parts. My upper and lower rollers have worn into the casting. Any ideas.
Thanks Don
Thanks Don
#36
HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: wake up?
Last post by Blake Malkamaki - October 31, 2019, 05:20:44 AMI just check back to this account every now and then, but, for the most part, everything has gone to Facebook. It's just easier for me. Most of those applying to be members on this forum are spammers, which take up lots of time to weed through. I've kept this group open in case something happens to Facebook and we can no longer use it.
#37
HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: wake up?
Last post by ianoz - September 14, 2019, 06:43:36 AMI have just found my way back to the forum .
Don't have any olivers or cletracs Any more . I am a member of the facebook group
Don't have any olivers or cletracs Any more . I am a member of the facebook group
#38
All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: FDE
Last post by ianoz - September 14, 2019, 06:25:19 AMHi Jeff,Britstand DDPCUs were Heil brand Built under license .
LD2 2 DRUMS LINE PULL IS 270 FPM EMPTY 500 FPM FULL .LINE PULL 4000 LB WEIGHT 1000LBS
S2 2 DRUMS LINE PULL IS 350 FPM EMPTY 600 FPM FULL DRUM LINE PULL 8000 LBS WEIGHT 1540 LBS
Maybe give Steve at Plough books sales a ring .
http://www.ploughbooksales.com.au/
Would love to see some Photos of your tractor.
LD2 2 DRUMS LINE PULL IS 270 FPM EMPTY 500 FPM FULL .LINE PULL 4000 LB WEIGHT 1000LBS
S2 2 DRUMS LINE PULL IS 350 FPM EMPTY 600 FPM FULL DRUM LINE PULL 8000 LBS WEIGHT 1540 LBS
Maybe give Steve at Plough books sales a ring .
http://www.ploughbooksales.com.au/
Would love to see some Photos of your tractor.
#39
All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / FDE
Last post by jeffrob - August 21, 2019, 12:50:10 PMHi,
Would anyone have a workshop or parts manual/s for the DDPCU as fitted to the FDE. I have an Australian delivered FDE which is fitted with an Australian made Britstand DDPCU. It could be that Oliver designed these winches and Britstand made them under licence.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Jeff
Would anyone have a workshop or parts manual/s for the DDPCU as fitted to the FDE. I have an Australian delivered FDE which is fitted with an Australian made Britstand DDPCU. It could be that Oliver designed these winches and Britstand made them under licence.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Jeff
#40
All Models Except HG, OC-3, OC-4 & General / Re: FDE Crawlers
Last post by jeffrob - June 18, 2019, 07:25:56 AMThanks Robert, your knowledge continues to astound me!