1937 E-38 Cletrac "stuck clutch" Help Please

Started by progich, September 04, 2010, 07:35:41 PM

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progich

Hi all,
New owner and first post to this forum.  I have been working on getting my Cletrac running,  It runs great now that I did a few things but when I try to put it in gear the gears just grind away.  I have it at a low idle then push the clutch all the way down then try to put it in gear.  It is like the flywheel does not slow down, is this a stuck clutch?  If so what can I do at this point?  I have it on my trailer at the moment.  While in neutral it pulled up the trailer just fine (tracks free).  Should I put it in gear and try to pull it with the winch on the trailer to free the clutch?  I will block the clutch pedal down before I do this too.  Any help would be great.  Thanks all, Pete

oliverchris

Yes, your clutch is stuck and your remedy is worth a try.
If you had electric start you could try and start it in 3rd gear, but I guess you have a hand crank model. Not sure the winch will give it enough of a jolt. How about put the Cletrac in gear and tow it with a truck? - don't turn the fuel line on unless you have a driver on the E!
I am sure some others will have good ideas...
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

progich

Quote from: "oliverchris"Yes, your clutch is stuck and your remedy is worth a try.
If you had electric start you could try and start it in 3rd gear, but I guess you have a hand crank model. Not sure the winch will give it enough of a jolt. How about put the Cletrac in gear and tow it with a truck? - don't turn the fuel line on unless you have a driver on the E!
I am sure some others will have good ideas...

Hi and thanks for your reply,
I was just out and tried to pull it in 2nd gear with the trailer winch but it is dragging the E up the trailer.  Its a 9,000 lbs winch so it can pull just about anything.  I do have an electric start on the E (It is a Farmer add on at the PTO) but was not sure if I wanted to start it in gear by myself.  I am going to step outside and pull the plug wires then turn it over to see if that works.  If anybody else can give my some ways to unstick this clutch I would very much appreciate the help.  Thanks, Pete

progich

As Oliverchris suggested I put it in 3rd gear then engaged the starter with the clutch fully pressed.  all it did was move the Cletrac slowly up the trailer.  I then put it in reverse and used the starter to move it back down the trailer.  Not sure what to do next?  Do I need to chain it to a tree then start it in gear now?

oliverchris

Quote from: "progich"Do I need to chain it to a tree then start it in gear now?
That is exactly what I would do with an electric start. I have an OC3 stuck in the same way and simply cannot unstick it...I am going to try in different weather in case a bit of a damp morning with heavy dew will help?? I was talking to Landis and he said some have a tendency to stick....no rhyme or reason to it though it seems  :evil:
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

Bob

I'd chain it to a tree or something solid (I chose the log truck) give yourself some slack and hit it a couple times, in any gear really. Just don't get ridiculously rough with it to break it, inside or out.
Certified Cletrac-tard

progich

Quote from: "Bob"I'd chain it to a tree or something solid (I chose the log truck) give yourself some slack and hit it a couple times, in any gear really. Just don't get ridiculously rough with it to break it, inside or out.

I'll give this a try today before I decide to tear into it.  I just have to show the wife how to stand behind the Cletrac and engage this homemade starter set up while I am in the driver's seat.  That should be fun.  :D