question about CG

Jason Epperson · February 21, 2007, 12:30:43 AM

I have what I think is a styled CG. But the info I have on the CG says that the track width should be 48 inches and mine is 64 inches. Mine also has 18 inch wide track pads. The serial tag is gone. Did they make a CGH?

walter hudson · February 21, 2007, 02:41:15 AM

None of the lists I have show anything about a CGH ,but it could have been changed for a special application .
Walter

fightinfire · February 22, 2007, 05:46:32 PM

Is it possible that maybe you have a DGH? if I remember correctly the two were similar

Jason Epperson · February 23, 2007, 12:27:07 AM

I guess it's possible but I have never seen a DG to compare it to. I was calling it a CG because it has a WXLC-3 Hercules engine in it. I think the original was a WXT and I thought this would have been the replacement for it. Is the DG physically bigger dimension wise that the CG?

Carl Besola · February 23, 2007, 03:27:52 AM

Hello Jason, there are some pics of my DGH in the photo gallery on this site, and video on Youtube. My DGH has a Herc. RXC engine.

Jason Epperson · February 23, 2007, 04:12:17 PM

Like the pictures. Mine looks real close to the one pictured. Maybe that is what I have. I guess I need to get the tape measure out and do some more measuring. What would be a tell tale sign to what model I have?

fightinfire · February 23, 2007, 08:19:11 PM

You should give Landis Zimmerman a call. He could easily tell you what the exact differences were between the two. He's really easy to talk to, and he knows his Cletracs

Robert Barbour · February 24, 2007, 05:26:29 AM

Going throu all my books, it looks like the CG is much the same as the DG with a smaller engine. Both used 7 1/4" Pitch tracks with a 5 roller track frame. Both were available in 48 or 61 inch gauge. The CG is just a few hundred pounds lighter. The CG is 119 3/4 inches long the DG is 124 3/4 long. The CG used a WXC 3 engine the DG a RXC engine. I would expect the CG is shorter due to the smaller engine and the fame infront of the transmission would be shorter. I will measure my DG frame so you can compare it to yours. Does yours have one or two speeds in reverse? The later DG had two reverse speeds the CG was not made that way.

Blake Malkamaki · February 24, 2007, 07:16:48 PM

I think the CG was kinda a bastard size and never caught on. I have only seen one and I'm not sure it even is a C.

Blake

Jason Epperson · February 25, 2007, 05:33:14 PM

Quote from: "Robert Barbour"Going throu all my books, it looks like the CG is much the same as the DG with a smaller engine. Both used 7 1/4" Pitch tracks with a 5 roller track frame. Both were available in 48 or 61 inch gauge. The CG is just a few hundred pounds lighter. The CG is 119 3/4 inches long the DG is 124 3/4 long. The CG used a WXC 3 engine the DG a RXC engine. I would expect the CG is shorter due to the smaller engine and the fame infront of the transmission would be shorter. I will measure my DG frame so you can compare it to yours. Does yours have one or two speeds in reverse? The later DG had two reverse speeds the CG was not made that way.

I would appreciate it if you would post the measurements you have for your crawler. This crawler just has the one speed reverse. Thanks in advance.

Robert Barbour · February 26, 2007, 04:34:38 AM

With only one speed in reverse, it is a CG made from 1936 to 1942 or an early DG made from 1936 to 1939. My DG is at my bush property and it may be a while before I get there again, but I will take some measurements and post them for you.

Jason Epperson · February 26, 2007, 02:14:38 PM

I would appreciate you posting what you find out when you get a chance. Thank you.

Robert Barbour · March 13, 2007, 04:02:45 AM

My DG is the later 6 speed model not the early 4 speed model. I have a parts book for both and they both use the same bellhousing and front engine mount. From the end of the bellhousing to the centerline of the first row of bolts on the front motor mount is 39 inches. From end of belhousing to front of frame is 55 inches. Form the bellhousing to the notch for the water pump on the left frame rail is 21 inches. The engine in the CG is about 5 inches shorter, and I don't think it has a notch for the water pump. If your dimensions match these you have a DG.

Jason Epperson · March 20, 2007, 12:15:24 AM

I measured the crawler today and here is what I found. No notch in the frame. From end of bellhousing to first set of bolts on motor mount: 35 inches. From end of bellhousing to end of front of frame: 50 inches. Looks like it is a CG. The pitch of the tracks are 7.25 inches and it has 18inch pads, 5 roller track frame, 61 inch tread width.

Robert Barbour · March 20, 2007, 05:28:46 AM

Yes with those measurements I would agree that it is a CG, actually a CGH, the H being for the Hillside or wide track model with 61" gauge. Both the CG and DG used the 7.25 pitch tracks and 5 roller track frame.

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