Adding Hydraulics

[ggibby]

Blake, Yes the pump will be mounted up front to the crank shaft.
I'm concerned that a tank may block some of the air meant for the radiator.
The tank that was on the the tractor  was very small, maybe 1 1/2 gal.
And aided by the fact that there was not a filter either toasted the pump.
A tank of 4 or 5 gals. maybe better for heat issues and a ten micron filter to help keep the insides clean.
I've been trying to follow John's suggestions, it all seems straight forward enough.
I thought maybe I could make a tank that would fit under the engine cover, but then you most likely could not remove the spark plugs, no good.
I think I will mock up some card board tanks for fit, I do not want to hinder getting on or off the tractor or tack on something out of charactor.
A Combination tank Grille guard maybe the way to go, something to think about.
Regards,
George Gibby

[Blake Malkamaki]

Yes, a lot of the hydraulic systems for either blades or loaders had the hydraulic tanks up front in radiator guards. My OC-12 dozer is that way, as well as an AD dozer my uncle has. The control valves on both are right up there too, with a long rod coming across the hood back to the lever.

[John D]

I had a front end loader that was framed with pipe, and they used the pipe for a hydraulic oil supply tank.  That was really clever until the frame cracked....  Talk about a long and skinny tank!

[Mike Anderson]

I've got an OC-3 with an ATECO loader on it.  The hydraulic tank and the valve are located under the dirveshaft.  It's fairly large, so good for cooling.  Some of the plumbing is a little bogus, though.  I broke off an elbow when I went over a chunk of concrete while demolishing a floor in an old cow shed.

If you're interested in a photo let me know and I'll crawl under there and take a few pictures.

Mike

[ggibby]

Mike, Sure a picture would be good, but no rush.
Maybe some one out in the WWW has a copy of the manual for that loader with a good diagram as well.
The Hydra-ease three point hitch system used a tank under the propeller shaft as well.
What is the approximate dimentions of the tank. How is the tank hung on the frame?
Is there a easy way to check the fluid level?
And are any of the drain plugs of the tractor blocked by the tank?
Keep the suggestions comming avery one and Merry Christmas.
Regards,
George Gibby

[pvcarey]

my HG has an ATECO loader loader on it and the tank is a upside down horse shoe shaped 3 inch pipe that sits in the front with a stub of pipe with a cap to fill the oil, my oc3 just hst the tank mounted on the left side with the control valves.
Ron

[John Schwiebert]

This is for what it is worth. I worked on a truck that has the cab protector made from 4 inch square tubing. It held the oil and it was good at cooling the oil. so George or anyone else if you are thinking of a brush guard, you would have a reservoir, it would cool the oil well so it does not need to be quite as large in capacity. Plus it would manily be above the pump which is important in hilly conditions. Hydraulic pumps do not suck well. Food for thought. Merry Christmas everyone!

[Farrview]

Hi My name is Bruce and i just wanted to let u know that i have a hydraulic tank for ur tractor and asking $40.00 for it if ur intresting for it please contact me thank u... Email me at mailto:FFA@Tiac.net">FFA@Tiac.net

[Farrview]

My students posted the above note because they are finishing restoring two 0c3 as part of their Ag. Science program.

We will be posting pictures shortly.

Please overlook the lack of editing..
It will be discussed tommorrow;)

[Farrview]

Hello
I finally got the time to take pictures of the hydraulic tank that I told you about. If you are still interested here are a couple pictures I took so you can get an idea of what shape its in, and what it looks like.
Dan Pendarvis
Region 9 FFA:cool:

[Bill Seal]

Accidentally hir ENTER, can't edit my own post!!
If you use the frame for an oil tank, make sure you can drain it and clean it out thoroughly. Triumph motorcycles used their frame for engine oil- if you grenaded the engine, lots of luck!

[ggibby]

Hello everyone,
I have gotten back to adding hydraulics to my HG.
I have a frame for my next restorantion and some other bits to mock up the pump and tank.

I have about 3/8" between the reproduction grille and the pump. I made up a new mounting bracket which puts the pump right at the front frame cross member.

The spool (valve) is mounted on to the tractor on some angle iron where the axle mounts to the transmission housing where I can reach it from the tractors seat.

The tank is another matter, as I had stated in a earlier post I wanted to use a propane tank as my hydraulic resevoir.
It doesn't fit behind the grille, so far I have sliced off about 40% from the diameter. This leaves the curved part behind the grille and about 1 1/2" gap in front of the radiator.
This may cause a cooling problem, maybe not.
The tank can move up or down behind the grill hood area to allow more air to pass. I may reverse the air flow or go to an electric fan possibly.

For now I plan to run the hydraulic lines tucked up under the tractor along the frame with the the filter mounted at some mid-point.

Has any one else had some success doing this same thing?

Keep Well All,
GG

[Mike Anderson]

George,

I have photos of a  couple of options, one on a '41 HG with Anderson blade with tank behind the grille.  It's a good shot, shown during restoration with the grill off.  The other is a OC3 with ATECO loader and the tank and valve are underneath the driveshaft.

I've not noticed any overheating problems with the tank behind the grille, and it's certainly a clean setup.  

Hey...........what is the story on downloading photos......public access website?

 

MikeA

[Blake Malkamaki]

Hey...........what is the story on downloading photos......public access website?

Mike, there are several sites out there that you can upload pictures to for free. I don't know any specifically, but if someone knows, let's start a post on them so everyone knows.

If you put your pictures up on a site, you should be able to put a link on here so the pictures just show up here as if they were really here.

Blake

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