wHAT IS CORRECT COLOR FOR A 1947 HGR-42

Started by Steve Ruddy, January 14, 2008, 05:12:09 PM

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Steve Ruddy

I just recently got a 1947 HGR-42, metal tracks though, but I can't seem to find any photos of the HGR model. Does anyone know if they were painted green? I have found several photo's of the HG-42 and most are green. I saw a few yellow. I'm thinking they were yellow before 1944-45 when Cletrac was the manufacturer but changed to green when Oliver purchased Cletrac? Was the HGR model painted a different color than the HG. Here is a photo of ours I haven't looked real close yet but it appears yellow is under green.


RockyMO

#1
If you look in the specifications link on this site there are paint codes listed. The way I interpret them your tractor should be green and red. I am getting ready to repaint my 53 HG and it appears it should be yellow.

Steve Ruddy

#2
Rocky would you mind directing me to that? I have looked around and done a search and can't find it.

Thanks,

Steve

RockyMO

#3
Sure, if you go to the main page    http://www.cletrac.org/     it is listed under specifications and technical information. On the right side you will see under the technical information heading, paint codes.  The direct link to the paint codes is    http://oliverinformation.com/paint.html      I hope this helps.

Steve Ruddy

#4
Thanks Rocky. I was just searching the forum. The main thing I'm concerned about is if the HGR models may have been painted a different color than the HG models. I see no distinction or mention of HGR in the paint code chart.  I put an email into the Oliver museum in Charles City maybe they can confirm.

Steve

RockyMO

#5
It is possible that they were a different color, I am certainly no expert since I am new to the crawlers as well. I was under the impression that the only thing different between the HG and HGR was that the HGR had rubber tracks when it left the factory. The rubber did not hold up well and they were recalled and replaced with steel. Have you tried calling Landis Zimmerman? He is the expert as far as I know, real nice fellow to visit and talk to as well.

Steve Ruddy

#6
Thanks for reminding me. I just ordered parts from Landis today and didn't even think to ask him.

joe

#7
:D Hello Steve you have a nice looking oliver.I also just picked up a 1947 Hg I was also trying to find out what the color it should be and what I found out was the complete crawler was painted green the seat and rear fenders were painted red. joe

walter hudson

#8
If you are interested the code I use for Yellow is Dupont Centari 421A or Napa 42586 . I have seen an HGR -68 with original paint and it had the same color scheme as a regular HG .
Walter

Steve Ruddy

#9
Thanks Walter I just confirmred by inspecting the existing paint closely that it was oringinally painted green. Then repainted yellow. Then back to green. I most likely will use Dupont Centari so I'm glad you gave that paint code. I just need to convert the green and red from Martin Seynour to Dupont. Here is what I have so far.

Martin Seynour Green 99L-8756
Martin Seynour Red 99L-3752
Martin Seynour Yellow 90T-3753 or Dupont Centari 421A

Blake Malkamaki

#10
Steve,
For your benefit, I just posted a picture of an HGR that appeared in the Oliver Shield publication of Dec-Jan 1946-47. It's in the Photo Album under HG pictures and Plant pictures.

It should appear below as well:



Blake
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