Thinking out loud...

Started by countryguy828, October 23, 2012, 12:08:29 AM

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countryguy828

So I have been thinking. I have access to a good sized lathe. I am missing the belt pulley for my HG-42. I watched an 18 inch diameter pulley being built from scratch so I know the proccess. Could I do this myself to build one for my HG-42?

Well, I believe I can do it with some practice. So I got to wondering if anyone else was missing a pulley and would possibly need one.

They wouldn't be exactly as original and they would be all steel.

Like I said kinda just thinking out loud.

Dave
1941 Cletrac HG
1936 Cletrac E
1949 Allis-Chalmers B
1952 Allis-Chalmers CA

Blake Malkamaki

No reason you couldn't make one, though you may want to look around first as they are quite common. If you find one, you may have to modify it for your HG.

One thing to be aware of if you decide to make one - belt pulleys are crowned and not flat. The belt will try to stay on the highest part of the crown and will therefore not try to walk off. If you make it flat the belt will not stay on.

Blake
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countryguy828

Posted a couple of videos of the big 18 inch dia pulley being turned over at the facebook page, have a look.

Dave
1941 Cletrac HG
1936 Cletrac E
1949 Allis-Chalmers B
1952 Allis-Chalmers CA

oliverchris

Pulleys for HGs are rare as a stand-alone item. I almost never see one for sale separately. PTO units are reasonably easy to locate. About half of those I get have no pulley. That company in Tennessee that refurbishes them do not sell the pulleys separately.
So yes, I reckon you could sell a few!
Specialising in Oliver & Cletrac Crawlers & Parts for HG's, OC-3's & OC-4's from the 30's to the 60's. OC-6 and others from time
1945 Cletrac HG42 + electric snowblade
1952 OC-3-31 sidewalk plow, OC-3-42 + Ware 3-WI (several)
OC-3-42 Heller Universal Trencher
1957 Oliver Super 55, 1958 Oliver 550's Gas/Diesel, 1970's Oliver 1255 FWA
1969 White 2-44 13LL (loader/backhoe)
OC-4 4 cyl. Anderson Dozer, OC-4 Series B 6-way Dozer, OC-46 Series B Loaders
OC-46-A Experimental Crawler Loader

countryguy828

OK!

If/When I get one made up I will post pictures.

Dave
1941 Cletrac HG
1936 Cletrac E
1949 Allis-Chalmers B
1952 Allis-Chalmers CA

countryguy828

I am pretty close to making a prototype for the belt pulley, I need to begin collecting materials. Does anyone happen to know the dimensions of the pulley? The paperpulleys site shows 8 1/2 x 6 1/2. I wanted to confirm this number.

Dave
1941 Cletrac HG
1936 Cletrac E
1949 Allis-Chalmers B
1952 Allis-Chalmers CA

440roadrunner

Something you might want to check out  and consider.   I don't know anything about Cletrac pulleys,  but  some  are not  actually "flat"  but rather convex  a very slight amount,  which promotes  keeping the belt centered.   
You cannot break it if it's broken,  but....
You can fix it so it cannot be fixed!!

Blake Malkamaki

All flat belt pulleys are crowned. Otherwise the belt would walk off. I have seen some amazingly out of line belt lining up jobs and, much to my surprise, the belt stayed on just fine.

Quote from: 440roadrunner on December 09, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
Something you might want to check out  and consider.   I don't know anything about Cletrac pulleys,  but  some  are not  actually "flat"  but rather convex  a very slight amount,  which promotes  keeping the belt centered.   
My gramps Howard van Driest was Experimental Engineer at Cletrac and Oliver Corporation. After the plant closed, he and my uncle started an excavating business, initially using Cletrac and Oliver Crawler tractors. Please help Support This Site and give your business exposure by buying a business card sized ad.

countryguy828

Quick update, I have machined 2 hubs that are fitting the tapered shaft perfectly. I am still looking around for materials. Doesn't seem too easy to find steel on the cheap anymore.

Dave
1941 Cletrac HG
1936 Cletrac E
1949 Allis-Chalmers B
1952 Allis-Chalmers CA